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don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings hollow. >> alex, richard, great to have you with us on "the ed show." >>> coming up, the obama campaign released a new ad hammering mitt romney for outsourcing jobs to a chinese company with sweat shop conditions during his time at bain capital. sherrod brown will be joining me on that and other issues. >>> and billionaires are getting antsy about the possibility of president obama's reelection. and they are starting to whine big time. stay tuned. you're watching "the ed show." >>> welcome back to "the ed show." thanks for wat
don't even go there, paul ryan. that straight to camera shot, you saw both campaigns come out with ads. president obama is a much better speaker. he's more direct and communicates warmth and honesty. from mitt romney it seems hollow. if i were the romney campaign, i would stay with the fix it thing. do everything short of coming out with mops and brooms and talk about the economy. whenever they try to play the genuine american attack, it never works for them. they fall flat and it always rings...
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paul ryan is not a friend of mitt romney long term. paul ryan is for paul ryan. he is thinking about 2016. he has not gotten what he needed. >> before we go, i have one last question. >> yes. >> what about, you talked about paul ryan, this medicare argument, you know, do you think that seniors believe that this is only going to affect people under the age of 55 or do they not trust politicians enough to think they can't keep their hands off the medicare. >> i honestly don't know how to get my arms around how the seniors react. they understand that paul ryan is up to no good when it comes to his medicare proposal. they look at him you look at the response at aarp, the way the proposal is at the end of the day has been received negatively by all folks even people who say we need to do something with the medicare, don't think it works. >> thank you, eliot spitzer who you can see on viewpoint at 8:00 p.m. you can watch him tonight covering all the issues for the debate. thank you. >> thanks for having me on. >> you can call 866-55-press. we're taking more of your cal
paul ryan is not a friend of mitt romney long term. paul ryan is for paul ryan. he is thinking about 2016. he has not gotten what he needed. >> before we go, i have one last question. >> yes. >> what about, you talked about paul ryan, this medicare argument, you know, do you think that seniors believe that this is only going to affect people under the age of 55 or do they not trust politicians enough to think they can't keep their hands off the medicare. >> i honestly...
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so for mitt romney, it's 47% and for paul ryan it's 30%. the idea that a large portion of americans are beyond the reach of the kind of politics the republican ticket is offering, it turns out it's both guys on the ticket who believe that. it's not just mitt romney. joining us is ryan grim, washington bureau chief for "the huffington post." thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> this is not new tape tonight. these are not new remarks. they are from november. i have to ask how they came to your attention and whether there's any suggestion from the ryan camp or romney folks that there's any question to its authenticity. >> there's no question. it was at a spectator event last november. it's been online since then, almost nobody has viewed it. it was sent to me and a few other reporters over the weekend along with about 15 or 20 other clips of paul ryan saying things over the past ten years. and i had kind of put it off sunday and monday, and today i just decided i'd listen to a bunch of these clips and here you go. here's pa
so for mitt romney, it's 47% and for paul ryan it's 30%. the idea that a large portion of americans are beyond the reach of the kind of politics the republican ticket is offering, it turns out it's both guys on the ticket who believe that. it's not just mitt romney. joining us is ryan grim, washington bureau chief for "the huffington post." thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> this is not new tape tonight. these are not new remarks. they are from...
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paul ryan's remarks were that it was 30% of the country. they do not believe in the american dream and just believe. tucker carlson played at the time it came out, but they are newly excited about in part, as best i can tell, because president obama gives a shout out to his chicago pastor at the time jeremiah wright. do either require as a first debate eve giant up-end the campaign surprise? joining us is steve smith. he's now an msnbc contributor. thank you for being here. big deal? >> probably not. it's old news. this is well-covered ground. and there's nothing in the speech that seems to me on the surface that's going to reset anything in the race. what it will do is create a conversation in conservative media about this event, the old tape here, as opposed to the expectations game that mitt romney is trying to control ahead of a really high-stakes debate. >> that's interesting. i don't mean to cast dispurgss on the journalist integrity, but i have noticed there have been a number of things that the ream campaign have wanted to inject in
paul ryan's remarks were that it was 30% of the country. they do not believe in the american dream and just believe. tucker carlson played at the time it came out, but they are newly excited about in part, as best i can tell, because president obama gives a shout out to his chicago pastor at the time jeremiah wright. do either require as a first debate eve giant up-end the campaign surprise? joining us is steve smith. he's now an msnbc contributor. thank you for being here. big deal? >>...
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i do understand what paul ryan is trying to say. the problem is, people like me can't go on and explain what they are doing. as richard said, they are going to have to get down to brass tax and specific. it's exhausting for republicans right now. i am at my wit's ends with this. i am hoping on wednesday governor romney will do this during the debate but this is the exact reason why we're losing and whether republicans like it or not, we're going to have to get things down to 140 characters and sound bites to put all over the media. this is the era we are living in and for whatever republicans and specifically this campaign continue to ignore that and it's just the realty of the times that we are losing in. >> so you are hoping that they can explain many of us are not there because they have not communicated. >> i think no matter how complex the issue is, which no one is saying this is an incredibly complex issue, they are going to have to narrow it down and make it digestible for average americans and they are not doing that right n
i do understand what paul ryan is trying to say. the problem is, people like me can't go on and explain what they are doing. as richard said, they are going to have to get down to brass tax and specific. it's exhausting for republicans right now. i am at my wit's ends with this. i am hoping on wednesday governor romney will do this during the debate but this is the exact reason why we're losing and whether republicans like it or not, we're going to have to get things down to 140 characters and...
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mitt romney and paul ryan are scrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill a that bucket, if you will. >> mitt romney breaks out the golden bucket to save his budget. tonight, obama campaign's senior adviser on mitt romney's fuzzy math. >>> devastating new poll numbers show mitt romney's secret video is crushing his campaign. >> i'll never convince them they should take personal responsibility. >> richard wolffe on how aggressive the president needs e to be on the 47% tape. >>> mitt romney's billionaire base is starting to lose their cool. >> we need leadership, not criticism. we need encouragement, not discouragement. >> e.j. deon on why billionaires who do so well under obama can't stand the president. >>> and democrats with a victory for voters in pennsylvania, but republican voter fraud is getting swept under the rug here in colorado. tonight the latest on the rnc's voter fraud scandal. >>> good to have you with us. thanks for watch
mitt romney and paul ryan are scrambling. robert gibbs is here tonight to respond. this is "the ed show." let's get to work. >>> you can use your charitable deduction or home mortgage deduction and can fill a that bucket, if you will. >> mitt romney breaks out the golden bucket to save his budget. tonight, obama campaign's senior adviser on mitt romney's fuzzy math. >>> devastating new poll numbers show mitt romney's secret video is crushing his campaign....
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if conservatives are punting for paul ryan and his specifics, let's just remind everyone what paul ryan has proposed for his budget over the next several years. most famous was his 2011 program to turn medicare into a voucher program that would drive up out-of-pocket costs for seniors and make it hard to get insurance policies for somebody in their 70s or 80s. $2 of every $3 of that suggested savings would come from programs for the poor such as medicaid and food stamps. pell grants would also take a hit that's for kids who can't afford college. do the same while reducing individual and corporate rates which would give the lion share of tax cut rights to the richest americans. you talk about redistribution, joan and gene. this is a redistribution plan from the bottom to the top. i wouldn't throw that word redistribution around if i were mitt romney because his partner in happiness apparently like to do that. >> we've been doing it for 30 years, chris. we've been shoveling money from the bottom to the top. and, you know, that is exactly what they want to do, and i think they are paying t
if conservatives are punting for paul ryan and his specifics, let's just remind everyone what paul ryan has proposed for his budget over the next several years. most famous was his 2011 program to turn medicare into a voucher program that would drive up out-of-pocket costs for seniors and make it hard to get insurance policies for somebody in their 70s or 80s. $2 of every $3 of that suggested savings would come from programs for the poor such as medicaid and food stamps. pell grants would also...
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this is exactly what paul ryan is guilty of. paulyan knows that hang out with mitt romney has exposed him w,y'otinis at paul ryan, because romney is the big name at thhead of the ticket. but ryan knows this is hurting his game in a big way. >> yeah, i mean absolutely knhainerce apintshe young gun, he knows they're going to close. that's what this kind of feels like. it's sort of a corporate nightmare for ryan because at the end of the day paul ryan was supposedly ts s ern'd ny buhe had this idea that look, m the guy who's going to make conservative specific poliies palatable because of my style. and i'm the guy that can serve the specifics of the conservatism to the electorate. if you were to get expect, this race would be even more of a gap between romney and barack obama. tprenamlea look at this new in the swing states. >> when mitt romney dismissed 47% of americans for not pulling their weight, he attacked millions of hard working people making 25, 35, $45,000 a year. ad tprent amleas in t swi ss. >> when mitt romney dismisse
this is exactly what paul ryan is guilty of. paulyan knows that hang out with mitt romney has exposed him w,y'otinis at paul ryan, because romney is the big name at thhead of the ticket. but ryan knows this is hurting his game in a big way. >> yeah, i mean absolutely knhainerce apintshe young gun, he knows they're going to close. that's what this kind of feels like. it's sort of a corporate nightmare for ryan because at the end of the day paul ryan was supposedly ts s ern'd ny buhe had...
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and paul ryan declaring that 70% of the americans want the american dream. the others want the welfare state. the question is do either of these impact the way voters view these two men? >>> and some
and paul ryan declaring that 70% of the americans want the american dream. the others want the welfare state. the question is do either of these impact the way voters view these two men? >>> and some
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let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a heartbeat away from the presidency, we're going to have to explain your plans to the american people. take all the time you want. especially here on "the ed show." you guys have been complaining about media fairness preponderance let's talk it over. today paul ryan told a radio host in milwaukee why he wouldn't give chris wallace the math. >> i didn't want to get into all the math of this because everybody would start changing the channel. >> so nice of paul ryan to be concerned about chris wallace's ratings rather than presenting the e details of his plan to the voters. paul ry
let's break down what paul ryan is actually saying here. romney and ryan will give trillion in tax breaks to the wealthiest americans. subtract an unspecified amount of money of unnamed deductions. somehow you're going to get a revenue neutral tax plan. it's a plan so bogus not even a fox news host can understand it. >> you haven't given me the math. >> i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go through the math. >> paul ryan, paul ryan, if you want to be a heartbeat...
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this is exactly what paul ryan is guiy of. paul ryan knowstg wiitt romney has exposed him too. now, they're not aiming this at paul ryan, because romne is the big name at the head of the ticket. but ryan knows this is hurting his game in a big way. >> yeah, i mean absolutely. you know that thing where aceo appots t you gun, he knows they're going close. that's what this kind of feels like. it's sort of a corporate nightmare for ryan. because at the end of the day paul ryan was supposedly this number guy. his numbers don't add up yway, m g o's going to make ok, conservative specific policies palatable because of my style. and i'm the guy that can serve nstio electorate.he if you were to get exct, this race would be even more of a gap between romney and barack obama. >>et's take a look at this new ad that preside obama released in the swing states. >> when mitt romy dismissed 47% of americans for not pulling th weig, h ake millions of hard working people making 25, 35, $45,000 a year. they pay taxes, romney paid just 14% in taxes last year on over 13 million in ie. st finments. i
this is exactly what paul ryan is guiy of. paul ryan knowstg wiitt romney has exposed him too. now, they're not aiming this at paul ryan, because romne is the big name at the head of the ticket. but ryan knows this is hurting his game in a big way. >> yeah, i mean absolutely. you know that thing where aceo appots t you gun, he knows they're going close. that's what this kind of feels like. it's sort of a corporate nightmare for ryan. because at the end of the day paul ryan was supposedly...
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including paul ryan. which makes this even more ridiculous than he ran from his past, saying this -- >> we would not gut our military because when you gut our military, have you to remember the president is proposing these devastating defense cuts. so, we don't agree with that. that's the point we're trying to make. >> who did you vote for? >> i voted for a bipartisan budget agreement. >> folks, this is the tea party effect. just look at mr. romney. he said he was severely conservative. he vowed to repeal obama care. and then there's this -- >> i have experience in health care reform. now and then the president says i'm the grandfather of obama care. i don't think he meant that as a compliment, but i'll take it. this was during my primary. we thought it might not be helpful. >> this goes to the root of the gop brand problem. they came in and assaulted programs that people like. and now they're trying to run like the wind from it. i'd like to call this move, the walk back. joining me now is democratic stra
including paul ryan. which makes this even more ridiculous than he ran from his past, saying this -- >> we would not gut our military because when you gut our military, have you to remember the president is proposing these devastating defense cuts. so, we don't agree with that. that's the point we're trying to make. >> who did you vote for? >> i voted for a bipartisan budget agreement. >> folks, this is the tea party effect. just look at mr. romney. he said he was...
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paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i was singing the song, the ham used to dance around a little bit? >> mitt romney has a new york yankees connection, turns out. sort of. romney's blind trust sold its financial stake in the yes network. >>> a new social media campaign asks you to listen to the boss. bruce springsteen is lending his name at "image" to support guy marriage. the goal is to pass new laws in maine, iowa and new hampshire. >>> k the white house glowed a lovely color of pink last night. it's estimated more than 200,000 women will be diagnosed with breast cancer in the u.s. just this year. >>> let's talk about another color, gray. presidents go into office full of vitality and a few years later they often look more than a few years older and grayer. it's not just president obama. research shows that stress does not affect when or how fast your hair turns gray. what does? it's my must-read and up on our facebook page at facebook.com/jansingco. ll come . delicious and whole
paul ryan is singing a jingle for dubuque, iowa, ham. >> how about a song? one, two, three, ♪ dubuque, dubuque i was singing the song, the ham used to dance around a little bit? >> mitt romney has a new york yankees connection, turns out. sort of. romney's blind trust sold its financial stake in the yes network. >>> a new social media campaign asks you to listen to the boss. bruce springsteen is lending his name at "image" to support guy marriage. the goal is to...
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in iowa, paul ryan will be campaigning today. the des moines register has the president leading 49% to 45%, just 2% there are undecided. those numbers raising the stakes for the romney campaign ahead of wednesday's debate. right now expectations are with the president. 55% of likely voters expect him to win the debate. in preparation for the match-up, the president is hunkered down with his aides in nevada, romney spent the weekend practicing in boston. both sides looking to play the role of underdog in the debate, downplaying expectations and talking up the opponent, but not chris christie who spoke yesterday on "meet the press" about his confidence on the republican candidate. >> the general public i speak to in new jersey and elsewhere are just beginning to tune in to this race. they will tune in on wednesday night. when they do governor romney will lay out his vision for a better and greater america for greater opportunity for all of our citizens. i think that's when you will see this race start to tighten and then move in go
in iowa, paul ryan will be campaigning today. the des moines register has the president leading 49% to 45%, just 2% there are undecided. those numbers raising the stakes for the romney campaign ahead of wednesday's debate. right now expectations are with the president. 55% of likely voters expect him to win the debate. in preparation for the match-up, the president is hunkered down with his aides in nevada, romney spent the weekend practicing in boston. both sides looking to play the role of...
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one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll get some of your responses. i can't believe you're missing chris and joy dancing. [ female announcer ] ready for a taste of what's hot? check out the latest collection of snacks from lean cuisine. creamy spinach artichoke dip, crispy garlic chicken spring rolls. they're this season's must-have accessory. lean cuisine. be culinary chic. >>> on the day of the presidential debate, two tapes from the past are creating talking points on both sides of the aisle. from the right, a 2007 tape that news organizations including nbc covered during the 2008 campaign of barack obama
one from the right on president obama and one from the left on paul ryan. will either have an impact? al sharp top is going to join me. plus, joe biden a sex symbol? i'm going to talk to politico's -- they're dancing on the set. we're going to talk about this with jonathan allen, who says vice president biden is bringing sexy back to the medicare crowd and what do you think? we want to hear from you. do you think one of the candidates will deliver a knockout punch? you can tweet me and we'll...
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that's paul ryan. you see the polls. it's neck and neck. maybe a little different in some of the swing states. some people are writing the finger-pointing has begun among the inner elite republican circle as if election day's happened. >> don't worry. romney is going to win. the media is in war mode. that's why they're not talking about banghazi. all they're talking about racism. literally tonight because mitt romney gave a statement about healthcare in which he mentioned apartments that is being -- >> sean: how does that get put into the -- >> it's almost as crazy as lawrence o'donnell to saying obama's golfing reminds people of tiger woods. tiger woods is very popular, isn't he? anyway, that was supposed to be racist. it's like the whitest sport other than polo, golfing is racist. >> sean: the racial dom goingry from the '1970s to today. also up the president one-on-one with "60 minutes." voters should treat this like his exit interview and his answers to crucial questions are nothing short of shocking. we'll exam it with dick morris. by
that's paul ryan. you see the polls. it's neck and neck. maybe a little different in some of the swing states. some people are writing the finger-pointing has begun among the inner elite republican circle as if election day's happened. >> don't worry. romney is going to win. the media is in war mode. that's why they're not talking about banghazi. all they're talking about racism. literally tonight because mitt romney gave a statement about healthcare in which he mentioned apartments that...
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paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this campaign, i think will get louder. >> nate, you're a man of numbers. a prognosticator, what is your bet? george will writes romney is behind so on wednesday night it might be risky for romney not to take risks. which is a lot of risk in one sentence. do you think romg will go out there? i mean given his behavior thus far? >> historically the defirst debate is the first time a challenger has a chance to stance on stage on a level playing for field for a couple hours with the incumbent president and it's been the challenger's best debate. so just by showing up, you would think that romney's a slight favori
paul ryan, god bless chris wallace for pressing as much as he could on paul ryan, no we've got all the time in the world, explain, explain. paul ryan didn't want to do it in a format that where chris wallace would have given him all the time in the world to get into the specifics. mitt romney won't have that much time, but if he doesn't go into specifics, all the complaints that we've been hearing from the american people, but also from republicans about the lack of specificity in this...
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ryan message at all. >> i thought it was crazy to put paul ryan on the ticket because of so much baggage he brought in terms of the house republican economic plan and that is largely really unpopular with a lot of people in the country and that the last thing you want to do is twin yourself up to an unpopular congressional republican leadership and those policy specifics. if you're going to put paul ryan the intellectual, ideological architect of the primary governing document of the congressional republicans, seems like you should either not put him on the ticket or put him on and give him a bear hug. the fact they've tried to do -- to not do that, get the energy of young conservative hero paul ryan, with -- and then distance themselves from the things that make him a conservative hero, seems whack a doodle. why not put rob portman on the ticket as people thought they were going to do from the beginning. >> with the other piece of sound demonstrates mitt romney feels like he's getting upstaged by paul ryan in terms of the love out there, which i think is emasculating to say the least, h
ryan message at all. >> i thought it was crazy to put paul ryan on the ticket because of so much baggage he brought in terms of the house republican economic plan and that is largely really unpopular with a lot of people in the country and that the last thing you want to do is twin yourself up to an unpopular congressional republican leadership and those policy specifics. if you're going to put paul ryan the intellectual, ideological architect of the primary governing document of the...
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stay with us. >>> paul ryan has become an intellectual leader of the republican party. >> that is the day things really changed. we were on a path. wde even. well, momentum is very much with us. the medicare issue in this campaign, so we have a message, we have the messengers, we have the money, we had the mobilization. we have a very excellent chance to take back the house. the ree itasshey have been in the campaign, in alphabetical order. medicare, medicare, medicare. and when ryan was chosen, the agent for the destruction of medicare was chosen as the vice presidential candite, well, it clarified the debate for many people in the races that we are active in. >> whatever it says about american politics, the fact is that the balance of power in congress and the house of representatives has been shifting pretty wildly in these st few elections. in a08e mocrs swung 52 seats in their direction. they seized both control of the house and a huge majority in the house. then in 2010, the republicans swung seats back in their direction, and they got control in 2010. and now for this year, bel
stay with us. >>> paul ryan has become an intellectual leader of the republican party. >> that is the day things really changed. we were on a path. wde even. well, momentum is very much with us. the medicare issue in this campaign, so we have a message, we have the messengers, we have the money, we had the mobilization. we have a very excellent chance to take back the house. the ree itasshey have been in the campaign, in alphabetical order. medicare, medicare, medicare. and when...
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the tou"the huffington post" qu paul ryan as saying conservatives wanted 30%. that's going to be in the debate. running mates are causing some headaches for the presidential candidates. >>> also, have i some questions of my own for the candidates. i'm going to ask michael steele and eugene robinson to fill in for obama and romney and let me ask my "hardball" questions. >>> i'm urging you to do this tonight when it comes down to thinking big. this is "hardball" live from denver, the first presidential debate. welcome aboard! [ chuckles ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ honk! ] ♪ [ male announcer ] now you'll know when to stop. [ honk! ] the all-new nissan altima with easy fill tire alert. [ honk! ] it's our most innovative altima ever. nissan. innovation that excites. ♪ humans -- even when we cross our t's and dot our i's, we still run into problems. namely, other humans. which is why, at liberty mutual insurance, auto policies come with new car replacement and accident forgiveness if you qualify. see what else comes standard at libertymutual.com. liberty
the tou"the huffington post" qu paul ryan as saying conservatives wanted 30%. that's going to be in the debate. running mates are causing some headaches for the presidential candidates. >>> also, have i some questions of my own for the candidates. i'm going to ask michael steele and eugene robinson to fill in for obama and romney and let me ask my "hardball" questions. >>> i'm urging you to do this tonight when it comes down to thinking big. this is...
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barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the referees issue. all three men saying that the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, the best moment of all time in the overlap that exists between the green bay packers and politics is still this moment. >> there are 30 teams, but only one packer organization, and that is the greatest football organization ever in america's history. there are only 187 days before training camp. and 360 days before we go back to miami! whereas the packers are america's real team, and we'll always be winners in the hearts and minds of the people of wisconsin, therefore i, tommy thompson, governor of the great state of wisconsin, do hereby proclaim january 27th, 1998, all over wisconsin, green bay packer day in honor of all of you, the fans! congratulations. thank you. >> tommy
barack obama and mitt romney and paul ryan have all seen fit to weigh in on this one football game from monday, on the referees issue. all three men saying that the green bay packers deserve to win that game. the packers got robbed. so even as the packers' agony crossed over into national politics this week, i still have to say that it remains true that the single west political green bay packers moment in history, the best moment of all time in the overlap that exists between the green bay...
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paul ryan knows better. he's trying to tap into the anti-moocher vote. and it's -- in the past, it's been a significant number of people in this country who think there are a bunch of lay-abouts lying on the couch, watching tv and eating cheetos. 45% do work. they just don't make enough money. the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the worst instincts of his audience. >> martin, i don't know how -- or what goes through someone like -- the head of someone like paul ryan where he isn't going to accept the framework of that proposition, which has been so damaging. really a sensible candidate wouldn't try and accept the premise of the question. he'd try and explain it. he'd say, this is where we want to move the country. not about work, but it's been so damaging to sort of accept it and engage in it and embrace it, it is such a losing proposition. even the research from his own campaign must tell him that. >> joh
paul ryan knows better. he's trying to tap into the anti-moocher vote. and it's -- in the past, it's been a significant number of people in this country who think there are a bunch of lay-abouts lying on the couch, watching tv and eating cheetos. 45% do work. they just don't make enough money. the government decided under ronald reagan at first, give them a tax credit. in other words, send them a tax -- >> incentivize them to work. >> ryan knows this but he's just pandering to the...
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. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already passed that tipping point. the good news is, survey after survey, poll after poll, still shows that we are a center right 70/30 country. 70% of americans want the american dream. they believe in the american idea. only 30% want the welfare state. >> which video is more sensat n sensational? more of a game-changing contest modifier. joining us from the site of tonight's debate in denver is the man who knows from game change, emmy darling, "time" magazine and msnbc senior political analyst whose publication is out with an issue today, who's telling the truth, the fact wars. mark halperin, i've been trying to find
. >> as long as we're talking about troublesome videos this clip of congressman paul ryan weighing in on the makers and the takers rose to the surface last night as well. >> before too long we could become a society we were never ever intended to be. we could become a society where the net majority of americans are takers not makers. 70% of americans get more benefits from the federal government in dollar value than they pay back in taxes. so you could argue that we're already...